Chicago White Sox

(American League, North Division)

The pride of the South Side have been American League stalwarts since 1901, winning six pennants and three World Series while unleashing Frank Thomas, Luke Appling, Nellie Fox, Shoeless Joe Jackson and Minnie Minoso on their competition.

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Active 25 Man Roster

Catchers & Infielders:

  • C – Carlton Fisk
  • C – Sherm Lollar
  • 1B – Frank Thomas
  • 2B – Eddie Collins
  • SS – Luke Appling
  • 3B – Yoan Moncada
  • MI – Alexei Ramirez (2B/SS)
  • CI – Robin Ventura (1B/3B)
  • CI – Jose Abreu (1B)

Outfielders:

  • LF – Minnie Minoso (3B/RF)
  • CF – Joe Jackson (LF/RF)
  • RF – Magglio Ordonez (CF)
  • LF/RF – Carlos Lee

Starting Pitchers:

  • SP – Ed Walsh
  • SP – Doc White
  • SP – Eddie Cicotte
  • SP – Jim Scott
  • SP – Red Faber
  • SP – Joe Horlen

Relief Pitchers:

  • CL – Hoyt Wilhelm
  • SU – Keith Foulke
  • RP – Chris Sale
  • RP – Bobby Thigpen
  • RP – Roberto Hernandez
  • RP – Billy Pierce

On the Farm

Catchers & Infielders:

  • 2B – Nellie Fox
  • C – Ray Schalk
  • SS – Luis Aparicio
  • 2B – Ray Durham
  • 1B – Paul Konerko

Outfielders:

  • RF – Harold Baines
  • LF – Eloy Jimenez
  • CF/RF – Johnny Mostil
  • LF – Bibb Falk

Pitchers:

  • P – Ted Lyons
  • P – Matt Thornton
  • P – Jose Quintana
  • P – Tommy John
  • P – Gary Peters
  • P – Wilbur Wood

Building the Roster: Chicago White Sox

With every team, we started building their all-time 25-man and 40-man rosters by using the Hall of Fame as a starting point, figuring that a player enshrined in baseball’s immortal Hall would certainly qualify to make his team’s all-time roster. Almost all the Hall of Fame members are easily identifiable with one team so it’s a simple way to start every roster with near-inarguable selections.

The only player the White Sox had to fight for was Carlton Fisk:

Carlton Fisk

Boston Red Sox: 11 years, 7-time All-Star, 0 MVPs, 39.5 WAR, .284 AVG, 627 Runs, 568 RBI, 162 HR, 61 SB

Chicago White Sox: 13 years, 4-time All-Star, 0 MVPs, 28.9 WAR, .257 AVG, 649 Runs, 762 RBI, 214 HR, 67 SB

I think it’s fair to say that Fisk was more productive in Boston, but the overall time he spent in Chicago tips the scales to the White Sox. Chicago also keeps Chris Sale, at least for now. A couple more seasons and that may tip to Boston, but for now – hide the scissors on the South Side.

As with every team, we are trying to build an active roster with 13 position players and 12 pitchers, and then a 15-player inactive roster of guys who just missed the cut, but remain valuable as callups in case of slumps or injuries.

The 13 active position players are usually two catchers, six infielders, and five outfielders. The stats are built around the average of the player’s best three consecutive seasons.

One important thing to mention here – Eternal Baseball is considering all players for inclusion on the all-time rosters, and that includes players on the ineligible list.

This means the eight “Black Sox” placed on baseball’s ineligible list by Commissioner Kennesaw Mountain Landis (for taking money to intentionally lose the 1919 World Series) are candidates for the all-time White Sox team. Of these eight players, only outfielder “Shoeless” Joe Jackson and pitcher Eddie Cicotte have statistics bearing roster consideration.

The National Baseball Hall of Fame gives us a good start here. Cooperstown gives us Carlton Fisk, Frank Thomas, Eddie Collins, Luke Appling, Ed Walsh, Hoyt Wilhelm, Red Faber, Ted Lyons, Harold Baines, Nellie Fox, Ray Schalk, and Luis Aparicio.

The Hall of Fame gives us 12 of our 40-man roster, and WAR (Wins Above Replacement), a great stat for looking at the all-around contribution to a team for both hitters and pitchers, can help us with the rest.

We get lots of help here, as in order we find: Minnie Minoso, Robin Ventura, George Davis, Fielder Jones, Paul Konerko, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Willie Kamm, Sherm Lollar, Magglio Ordonez, Johnny Mostil, Alexei Ramirez, Ray Durham, Lance Johnson, Buck Weaver, and Jose Abreu.

Chicago is building with a talented young core right now, and new stars Yoan Moncada, Tim Anderson, and Eloy Jimenez were given consideration as well. Carlos Lee had a tremendous run in the 2000s so he was included in the candidates.

Once plugged into the simulation software, we looked at their OPS (on-base + slugging percentage) and their defensive rankings and they break down like this:

CATCHER: Carlton Fisk, Sherm Lollar
FIRST BASE: Frank Thomas, Jose Abreu
SECOND BASE: Eddie Collins, Alexei Ramirez
SHORTSTOP: Luke Appling, Alexei Ramirez (sometimes)
THIRD BASE: Yoan Moncada, Robin Ventura
LEFT FIELD: Minnie Minoso, Carlos Lee
CENTER FIELD: “Shoeless” Joe Jackson
RIGHT FIELD: Magglio Ordonez

Chicago’s going to use a designated hitter on most days too, so Jose Abreu, Carlos Lee, and Robin Ventura will see some at-bats there too. That leave inactive roster options Paul Konerko, Willie Kamm, Nellie Fox, Ray Schalk, Eloy Jimenez, Johnny Mostil, Luis Aparicio, and Ray Durham.

For the pitching staff we’re looking for six starters and six relievers. Bear in mind that across the whole game you will see dynamic, outstanding starting pitchers that can’t crack an all-time rotation but are better served as relievers on a team than sitting inactive.

Hall of Famers automatically belong, so four spots are reserved for Ed Walsh, Red Faber, Hoyt Wilhelm, and Ted Lyons. With the 25 players on the total roster we have room for 15 more pitchers.

Once we dug into the career WAR rankings (as White Sox) we came up with these names: Wilbur Wood, Eddie Cicotte, Billy Pierce, Mark Buehrle, Doc White, Thornton Lee, Chris Sale, Jim Scott, Joe Horlen, Tommy John, Reb Russell, Tommy Thomas, Jack McDowell, Gary Peters, and Jose Quintana.

Dominant relievers Bobby Thigpen, Keith Foulke and Bobby Jenks were considered as well.

We looked at their overall numbers in the simulation software and leaned heavily on ERA to come up with these designations:

STARTING ROTATION: Ed Walsh, Doc White, Eddie Cicotte, Jim Scott, Red Faber, Joe Horlen
RELIEVERS: Billy Pierce, Roberto Hernandez, Bobby Thigpen
SET-UP: Chris Sale & Keith Foulke
CLOSER: Hoyt Wilhelm

The back end of that bullpen is really impressive. The inactive pitcher options are Matt Thornton, Ted Lyons, Jose Quintana, Tommy John, Gary Peters and Wilbur Wood.

So how did we do?

Does Chris Sale belong in the rotation instead?

Are you cool with Eddie Cicotte and “Shoeless” Joe Jackson being on the squad?

Should Alexei Ramirez make room for Tim Anderson already?

What batting order would you suggest versus lefties and righties?

Let us know in the forums below and if you make a compelling case we will adapt it in-game. We want every squad to be the best they possibly can be and appreciate your help fine-tuning the White Sox for Eternal Baseball.

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